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tdadigital
01/25/2005, 10:57
We have an e-gold account, and have reviewed e-gold’s web site extensively on how to transfer money into our account, we see there are a number of affiliates associated with e-gold, but none reside in Thailand, that we could discover. Also, if we used the affiliates we reviewed the cost of getting money into our account (service charges) makes it really cost prohibitive.
Can anyone suggest a way, preferably without using a credit card, but instead a wire-to-wire bank transfer or any other method that may come to mind.
Thanks
Tom
Use a scriptlance withdrawl. :)
By the way, my VISA card was hacked this week, $200 gone to Thailand
Sorry for the offtopic
tdadigital
01/25/2005, 11:30
We want to put money into our e-gold account without using ScriptLance as a transfer agent (it’s unfair to SL) , not withdraw, sorry if my wording is not the best.
SKIV, now you understand why we don’t chose to use our (TDA Digital) credit cards in Thailand. Been here 14 years and have seen more rip-offs with credit cards than I’ve seen PayPal accounts on web sites. By the way you can buy a credit card for $100 USD, that’s good for a week only.
i am new to egold.. how it works? will it not be good if i dont have egold?
is there CC necessory?
I suggest you try omnipay.net (http://www.omnipay.net). It's owned by the same company as e-gold.com.
They have no fee for wire2egold transfers, but their exchange rate is lower than the official one. So it comes out to an approximate fee of 2%, which is better than any other services of this type I've seen.
I suggest you try omnipay.net (http://www.omnipay.net). It's owned by the same company as e-gold.com.
I agree - I've tried them and they work fine.
And they have really impressive security features. For example I had to enter the code they sent by post to verify my postal address :)
I suggest you try omnipay.net (http://www.omnipay.net). It's owned by the same company as e-gold.com.
They have no fee for wire2egold transfers, but their exchange rate is lower than the official one. So it comes out to an approximate fee of 2%, which is better than any other services of this type I've seen.
ok thaks Rene.. i will check it out
sorry to be so dumbed.. but can anyone tell me how egold works?
is there any "gold" "credit card" transactions? what i have to provided them?
bes island
01/26/2005, 05:52
well, dcm, e-gold is an international currency rather than payment system. e-gold Inc., the issuer of e-gold, does not provide currency exchanges - but its affiliates do.
As I do not know where are you from (www is not any kind of strict location identifier, you know), I cannot recommend you any of these affiliates. As for me, I use RUpay.com - it allows e-gold => credit card withdrawals. The only problem that RUpay.com is whole in Russian - no international versions provided - but if you speak Russian, you can use it from any point of the world. I can say you that I pay 6% tax after all the transactions from SL, that is, I receive 6% less that if I did receive cash directly from SL.
well, dcm, e-gold is an international currency rather than payment system. e-gold Inc., the issuer of e-gold, does not provide currency exchanges - but its affiliates do.
As I do not know where are you from (www is not any kind of strict location identifier, you know), I cannot recommend you any of these affiliates. As for me, I use RUpay.com - it allows e-gold => credit card withdrawals. The only problem that RUpay.com is whole in Russian - no international versions provided - but if you speak Russian, you can use it from any point of the world. I can say you that I pay 6% tax after all the transactions from SL, that is, I receive 6% less that if I did receive cash directly from SL.
Hello bes island,
is this a credit or debit card? and do they (rupay) issue it or just send it to existing card you have?
Yanko
bes island
01/26/2005, 16:10
Hello bes island,
is this a credit or debit card? and do they (rupay) issue it or just send it to existing card you have?
I do not know difference between credit card and debit one indeed... so stupid :( well, it allows me to receive cash - so that is the exact thing I want, and I do not worry, is it credit thing or debit one.
I use my existing card. As far as I know, RUpay does not issue cards itself... however, there is a link "get free VISA card" there... didn't try it though.
I do not know difference between credit card and debit one indeed... so stupid :( well, it allows me to receive cash - so that is the exact thing I want, and I do not worry, is it credit thing or debit one.
I use my existing card. As far as I know, RUpay does not issue cards itself... however, there is a link "get free VISA card" there... didn't try it though.
Thank you....
tdadigital
01/26/2005, 16:34
Be careful, a debit card can be dangerous to use; think of it as an ATM card, meaning you have no insurance or legal recourse against money being withdrawn from your account. Whereas a credit card as cancellation features; meaning, when you receive your monthly statement if there is an unaccountable charge on your statement, you can contact your bank and inquire as to the details of the charge. The bank will have to produce a copy of your signed receipt, if there is one, for your verification.
Banks love to issue debit cards for the aforementioned reasons, there's no liability on there behalf, only yours.
bes island
01/26/2005, 16:52
tdadigital, thank you for your explanations.
I guess, my card is the debit one...
tdadigital
01/26/2005, 17:15
I can’t of course know about the Ukraine, but in the US, a debit card is purposely designed to look just like a credit card, which is almost verging on false advertising and misrepresentation.
Because they’re banks they can get-away with this and than take a very cheeky attitude towards the consumer when there’s a problem, simply by stating “well you should have read the backside of you application more carefully”. Reviewing their backside of an application, consisting of 10,000+ words, all in academic legal jargon is usually what you will find.
What about me.. I do use E-gold for withdrawal only.
Then I transfer money to RUPay and from there to my Bank Account or card (Union or Visa).
tdadigital
01/27/2005, 11:00
A question of the SL staff; does it present a problem for SL, if we transfer funds in an out of our e-gold account to pay for Programming Services?
Thanks,
Pratschalaporn
Accountant
A question of the SL staff; does it present a problem for SL, if we transfer funds in an out of our e-gold account to pay for Programming Services?
Thanks,
Pratschalaporn
Accountant
Why do you need to? If you have 2 accounts you need funds transfered between, just post a support ticket asking for it.
alexlamp
01/28/2005, 11:47
I use e-gold for withdrawal. Than i transfer money to v-cash and than to cashcards ATM card.
e-gold to v-cash (1% fee)
$5.00 Fee for ATM withdrawals outside the US
You need to purchase their GoldCard ($59)
bes island
01/28/2005, 14:52
I can?t of course know about the Ukraine, but in the US, a debit card is purposely designed to look just like a credit card, which is almost verging on false advertising and misrepresentation.
Well... my card is marked Maestro... don't know really whether it is credit or debit... it is called "plastic card" in all the documentation... and I do not store money on the associated account for more than few days, so, hope, will avoid frauds.
Because they?re banks they can get-away with this and than take a very cheeky attitude towards the consumer when there?s a problem, simply by stating ?well you should have read the backside of you application more carefully?. Reviewing their backside of an application, consisting of 10,000+ words, all in academic legal jargon is usually what you will find.
Well... you may think I am crazy... but I have read all the backside... thanks god I studied in law school...
What about me.. I do use E-gold for withdrawal only.
Then I transfer money to RUPay and from there to my Bank Account or card (Union or Visa).
Yes, the same I do.
Hi! I am very curious about RuPay.com, but unfortunately I cannot understand anything. From what you said before, you can withdraw to your debit card anywhere in the world.
Is this correct? I have a debit card but it's in the national currency (Romanian Leu). Could I withdraw funds from RuPay to that account, or I need a USD account? If I am from Romania, would the fees be greater to withdraw on the debit card ?
If you could answer these questions I'd be grateful.
I currently withdraw to my E-Gold account, then send the money to someone who withdraws on his INTGold ATM card and sends me the funds to my debit card. This costs me an 8$ flat fee + 5% of the sum. For 100$, it's a bid high, but for larger amounts it's pretty good, the fee comes to 7-8%. The problem is that I usually work on small projects, and need to withdraw 100 or less.
bes island
01/31/2005, 18:30
Hello alinush
I enjoy answering questions (I feel sooo clever during this process :) )
As I saw at the RUpay.com, for international (neither in Russia nor in Ukraine) users, they support such withdrawals:
to VISA card issued by any bank except for the USA banks - fee 3%+bank commission
USD wire transfer - $25+2%
EUR wire transfer - 20EUR+2%
mail check - $5+2%
Western Union - 2%+WU tax
to Ecuator, NetPay, Fethard, e-gold - each 2%
...
And there are greatly better options for Ukraine:
to any card issued by Privatbank - no fee, only USD to UAH exchange tax
to an account of any Ukrainian bank - no fee, only USD to UAH exchange tax
to VISA card issued by any Ukrainian bank - fee 2%+bank commission
...
As I live in Ukraine, and I own the Privatbank's Maestro card (probably debit one), I prefer withdrawing to my card.
For Romania, as you are interested in withdrawal to debit card, if your card is VISA and issued not by American bank, there is no problem. Else I would recommend you to buy VISA card (can be in national currency), or even to buy an international card in Privatbank - however, don't remember are foreigners allowed to own accounts in Ukrainian banks; it seems to me they are. And I'd want to remind you that you must speak Russian to use RUpay.
tdadigital
01/31/2005, 22:41
Just uncovered an interesting write-up on what e-gold is, in simple terms, consider giving it a look:
http://www.offshore-manual.com/e-gold.html
Regards,
Tom
by th way now I am going to Czech Rep. with my Visa issued by Russian bank.
So RUpay will charge 2%+bank commission... I think, I'll continue to use it this way)
bes island, thank you very much for answering my questions.
I have a VISA card, so this could be a good withdrawal method for me, but I guess I need to find a trustworthy russian to be able to withdraw through RUPay.
Thanks again!
Do you mean you need Russian to understand the site interface?
I use e-gold for withdrawal. Than i transfer money to v-cash and than to cashcards ATM card.
e-gold to v-cash (1% fee)
$5.00 Fee for ATM withdrawals outside the US
You need to purchase their GoldCard ($59)
How reliable is this service? I checked out their webpage and it did not look too apealing, but the service might work great though.
Currently Im just using paypal to withdraw to my bank account, but I need to pay tax on those money. So it would be nice with another atm card which I could withdraw money "unnoticed" by the norwegian tax goverment :P
alexlamp
02/07/2005, 17:22
How reliable is this service? I checked out their webpage and it did not look too apealing, but the service might work great though.
I'm really satisfied with this card. I used it a few time for withdrawal. It's maybe little expencive ($59) but it's very good. If you have any problem thay have good customer support.
SL to E-Gold ; about 2 days (no fee)
E-gold to V-cash ; automatical (1% fee)
V-cash to V-cash ATM card ; few hours-1 day (1%fee)
ATM withdrawal outside US ; ($5 fee)
When you send request for withdrawal to SL you can get your money in 3-4 days.
Ok, good to hear. Thanks for your reply :)
Rupay has turned off the feature to send money to Visa Card. I felt a little sad.
But now I have contacted them and they tell, it'll be working within next week. Hope, it can help somebody )
Be careful, a debit card can be dangerous to use; think of it as an ATM card, meaning you have no insurance or legal recourse against money being withdrawn from your account. Whereas a credit card as cancellation features; meaning, when you receive your monthly statement if there is an unaccountable charge on your statement, you can contact your bank and inquire as to the details of the charge. The bank will have to produce a copy of your signed receipt, if there is one, for your verification.
Banks love to issue debit cards for the aforementioned reasons, there's no liability on there behalf, only yours.
Sorry, I have to post here.
Banks will issue debit cards at will this is true. But you DO have a recourse with them. Unauthorised transactions can be recovered, I have done this myself several times with a debit card.
Debit cards are linked to your bank account so that you can spend money you have instead of going into deb with a credit card company.
My bank is Barclays (http://www.barclays.co.uk).
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